{"id":675,"date":"2015-02-17T14:00:11","date_gmt":"2015-02-17T20:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/interfluency.com\/?p=675"},"modified":"2021-02-21T17:25:34","modified_gmt":"2021-02-21T23:25:34","slug":"so-who-is-this-joe-blow-anyway","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/interfluency.com\/en\/2015\/02\/17\/so-who-is-this-joe-blow-anyway\/","title":{"rendered":"So who is this Joe Blow, anyway?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interfluency.wordpress.com\/2015\/02\/17\/quien-es-fulano-de-tal-al-final\/\"><em>Enlace para espa\u00f1ol\/Link here for Spanish<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Dear reader,<\/p>\n<p>What do you call someone whose identity you don\u2019t know? What about someone who doesn\u2019t exist? How do you refer to someone whose name you can\u2019t quite remember? These and other, similar, sorts of linguistic situations, each subtly different from the others, are surprisingly common\u2014and they\u2019ve given rise to an amazing panoply of pseudo or quasi-names.<\/p>\n<div data-shortcode=\"caption\" id=\"attachment_1034\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/interfluency.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/02\/social_security_card-john-q-public.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1034\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1034\" src=\"https:\/\/interfluency.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/02\/social_security_card-john-q-public.gif?w=300&amp;h=192\" alt=\"El nombre ficticio de &quot;John Q. Public&quot; es muy usado en EEUU en el \u00e1mbito publicitario y en el gubernamental.\" width=\"300\" height=\"192\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1034\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The fictitious John Q. Public and his somewhat lesser-known sister (or perhaps spouse) Jane are commonly used in advertising and government communication.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>You can say a selective employer \u201cwon\u2019t hire just any Tom, Dick or Harry\u201d\u2014or &nbsp;\u201cany Joe Blow\u201d or \u201cJoe Schmoe.\u201d A Hispanic name that expresses ordinariness to the point of anonymity is <em>Juan P\u00e9rez<\/em>\u2014akin to \u201cJohn Smith.\u201d&nbsp; In a somewhat more formal vein, advertising and government language often makes use of a fictitious \u201cJohn Q. Public\u201d and, somewhat less commonly, \u201cJane Q. Public.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The heritage of Arabic, which medieval Spanish speakers lived cheek-to-jowl with for eight centuries (to A.D. 1492), gave&nbsp;the language such anonymous or \u201cplaceholder\u201d names as &nbsp;<em>Fulano<\/em> (or <em>Fulano de Tal<\/em>)<em>, Zutano,<\/em> and <em>Mengano. <\/em>Their sisters might be <em>Fulana, Zutana,<\/em> and <em>Mengana. <\/em>There are many others.<\/p>\n<p>What if someone\u2019s name is on the tip of your tongue? English has \u201cWhat\u2019s-his-name\u201d or, even less elegantly, \u201cWhat\u2019s-his-face\u201d or the potentially insulting \u201cSo-and-so.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Coso<\/em> in some Spanish-speaking countries can refer to someone in this situation (or when the thing you can\u2019t quite remember is the name of an&nbsp;object\u2014as in English&nbsp;\u201cthing-a-ma-jig\u201d).&nbsp; <em>Fulanito<\/em> and <em>Fulanita<\/em> can serve the same function for a person.<\/p>\n<p>When you want to wash your hands of something, as in \u201cLet George do it\u201d, Argentine and Uruguayan Spanish offers a series of funny names: <em>Que lo haga Magoya<\/em> (Let Magoya do it). This imaginary sucker is also called <em>Montoto, Mongo,<\/em> or <em>Mongo Aurelio.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>These characters can reappear when you don\u2019t believe a word someone\u2019s saying: &nbsp;<em>And\u00e1 a contarle a Magoya<\/em> (Go tell it to Magoya). Or\u2014and here the name\u2019s not anonymous, but the phrase expresses the height of futility\u2014<em>And\u00e1 cantarle a Gardel<\/em> (Go sing to Gardel), the greatest tango singer of all time. An English equivalent, popular from around the Spanish-American War to World War I, but still used:&nbsp; \u201cTell it to the Marines.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yet another situation where we come up with a quasi-name is when we prefer not to overtly identify&nbsp;someone, but&nbsp;speaker and listener are both well aware of who\u2019s being discussed\u2014indeed, this person may himself or herself be present: \u201cYou-know-who got up on the wrong side of bed today,\u201d which in Spanish might go this way: <em>Uno<\/em> (or female&nbsp;<em>Una<\/em>)&nbsp;<em>&nbsp;que yo&nbsp;s\u00e9 se levant\u00f3 con el pie izquierdo.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Finally, the reverse also happens: we use the name of a real person to designate a category of persons.&nbsp; Phrases like \u201cThe Lebron Jameses and the Kobe Bryants of the world\u201d are much used in English, though not absent from Spanish: <em>Los Lebron James y los Kobe Bryant del mundo.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Good words! \/ \u00a1Buenas palabras!<\/p>\n<p><em>Copyright \u00a92015 by Pablo J. Davis. All rights reserved.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Pablo Juli\u00e1n Davis, PhD, CT is a Certified Translator (ATA\/American Translators Association) eng&gt;spa and a Certified Interpreter (Tennessee State Courts)&nbsp;eng&lt;&gt;spa, as well as a recognized trainer in the fields of translation, interpreting, and cultural competence. He has over 25 years experience in these fields. An earlier version of this column was written for&nbsp;the Feb. 22-28, 2015 edition of<\/em> La Prensa Latina <em>(Memphis, Tennessee) as part of his bilingual weekly column <\/em>Mysteries &amp; Enigmas of Translation\/Misterios y Enigmas de la Traducci\u00f3n.<em>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Enlace para espa\u00f1ol\/Link here for Spanish Dear reader, What do you call someone whose identity you don\u2019t know? What about someone who doesn\u2019t exist? How do you refer to someone whose name you can\u2019t quite remember? These and other, similar, sorts of linguistic situations, each subtly different from the others, are surprisingly common\u2014and they\u2019ve given [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[93],"tags":[95,44,470,101,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,276,317,51,219,478,479,54,19,480],"class_list":{"0":"post-675","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-interflows-language-culture-blog","7":"tag-pablo-j-davis","8":"tag-davis","9":"tag-fulano","10":"tag-interfluency","11":"tag-joe-blow","12":"tag-joe-schmoe","13":"tag-john-q-public","14":"tag-magoya","15":"tag-mengano","16":"tag-mongo","17":"tag-montoto","18":"tag-names","19":"tag-nombres","20":"tag-pablo","21":"tag-pablo-davis","22":"tag-pseudonimos","23":"tag-pseudonyms","24":"tag-traduccion","25":"tag-translation","26":"tag-zutano","27":"entry"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>So who is this Joe Blow, anyway? - Interfluency<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/interfluency.com\/en\/2015\/02\/17\/so-who-is-this-joe-blow-anyway\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"So who is this Joe Blow, anyway? - Interfluency\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Enlace para espa\u00f1ol\/Link here for Spanish Dear reader, What do you call someone whose identity you don\u2019t know? 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